Remington 870 Shotgun Range Report Plus Mods

by Gunguy

I purchased a Remington 870 Express Tactical Shotgun several months ago. The shotgun was very accurate using the iron sights and I was shooting excellent groups with slugs at a 100 feet with out any trouble. After zeroing the shotgun I wanted to make some improvements. The default stock on the Remington 870 Tactical Express was pretty awful. The shotgun kicked like a mule and I started to flinch after less than a dozen rounds. I was very happy with a Speed Feed stock that I purchased for my Mossberg 590 over 10 years ago so I decided to get one for my Remington 870 as well.

I initially was going to go with the pistol grip Speed Feed III stock but after reading reviews stating that the grip was better suited for larger hands I decided to go with the Speed Feed I stock which holds four shells, two on each side.

In addition to the stock I added a six shell  TacStar Sidesaddle shot shell holder and your average run of the mill sling.   The only thing missing on the shotgun was a flashlight. I’ve tried the Elzetta Tactical flashlight mount that I used on my Mossberg 590 but it pinched the magazine tube and bound up the spring and prevented proper loading of the shells. I considered one of the Sure Fire fore grips but the battery life on the flash lights is abysmal. The short battery life span plus the price tag on the Sure Fire fore grip, around $400, made me look for another solution.

I’m considering several different options but I have not made up my mind just yet.

After I installed the stock and shot shell holder I took the shotgun to the range and put about 50 rounds of slug and 00 buck shot through it. The Speed Feed stock reduced the felt recoil of the shotgun noticeably. The stock 870 was pretty light weight with 6 shells in the magazine tube. After putting on the after market accessories I could keep 16 shells on/in the gun. The additional weight was noticeable but because of the placement the shotgun was still well balanced.

The 870 Tactical came with a factory installed 2 round magazine extension, picatinny rail and an intimidating tactical choke tube. The tactical choke kept coming loose through out my time at the range. I found myself constantly tightening it and checking to see if it was in tight enough.

I could put a drop of blue loctite on the threads but for a defense weapon and the occasional trip to the range I’m not going to bother. With my sparse additions I could store the shotgun with 16 rounds at the ready in case of an emergency. I have the shotgun loaded with Winchester 12-gauge Supreme Elite PDX1 shells and in case a home defense situation arose I believe it would more than suffice.

See the pictures below of the groups, the stock shotgun and the shotgun after the accessories were put on.

Stock Remington 870 Tactical Express

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Remington 870 Tactical Express with Accessories Left Side

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Remington 870 Tactical Express with Accessories Right Side

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Remington 870 Tactical 15 Meter / 45 Foot Target

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Remington 870 Tactical 33 Meter / 100 Foot Target

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Batoning – “You did WHAT with your knife?!?”

by Woodsbum

How long are people going to argue about the viability of using a knife for fire preparation? It makes NO sense to me why this is still an argument……..

Let me being with the back story before my rant:
I was down in Texas for the better part of last week. My plane landed a little after 1800 (6 pm) and I got home around 1900 (7 pm). The son, the daughter and the daughter’s boyfriend were outside. A fire in our fire pit was in the works. Like usual, my son was out there with his Primitive Edge bushcraft knife batoning and feathersticking away. Some jerk had stopped to give him hell about using his knife in such a “disrespectful” manner. This guy then felt the need to start in on me about how ill taught my son was and how I should have put him in the Boy Scouts so that expert outdoorsmen such as himself could have taught my son correctly……….

Again, I ask why people argue about the use of knives in fire preparation. When you go online and do a search for using a knife to baton wood, you will get tons of results where anyone that batons is called names. These same people will quickly turn around and use the same knife they won’t baton with for making a feather or fuzz stick, however. This makes no sense. If you can use one knife for cutting and stripping wood, why can’t you use it to make smaller strips of wood by batoning? Better yet is when they pound the wood onto the ground or a rock with the knife being used as a splitting maul. When the wood splits, they quite effectively slam their knife into the rock. Again-again, I wonder why that is a fine use of a knife when careful batoning is not.

For those of you who do not know what batoning is, please let me explain. Instead of using an axe to split wood, a knife is used and another piece of wood is used to hammer the far end of the knife so that the blade travels down the length to split it. This is most commonly used in split wood fires to make very small pieces of wood for kindling. Once the small pieces are done, you use the same knife to make feather/fuzz sticks.

Many of these self proclaimed “experts” in outdoors “survival” have a tendency to use military survival training as the basis for everything that they know about living in the bush. They will buy those mylar emergency blankets and expect that to keep them warm if a situation crops up where they get stranded. They will also carry some Rambo knife that is not even full tang and think that this fighting knife is a survival knife. What really needs to happen is that they need to understand that “survival” and “bushcraft” are two completely different things. If you can thrive in the woods, you don’t need to “survive” in the woods. You can carry less and be comfortable for the wild will provide.

Maybe they need to research this guy:

Mors Kochanski

Mors Kochanski

The picture is of Mors Kochanski. If you don’t know who that is and are spouting off about batoning a knife, you have serious issues……..

Here are some links to an interview with Mors.

As you can see from the interview, he is considered the modern “Grandfather of Bushcraft.”

Why do I mention him? He teaches and preaches the importance of being able to baton with your knife. It is one of the many lessons that he harps on as a basic skill for outdoorsmen.

If you are not as well versed in bushcraft and believe people like Dave Canterbury more, even he batons his knife.

If you don’t believe them, then how about this?

The reality is quite simple. People use tools to complete tasks. A good bushcraft knife is simply a tool. Just make up your mind as to which tool you like best. Whether you use a knife, hatchet, machete, cleaver, axe, or any other tool you choose, the final result is really the only true way to evaluate the effectiveness or value of the tool. In the case of a skilled woodsman using any of the previously mentioned tools, they are all effective.

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Reloading in the Bush

by Woodsbum

For many years our family has used the old school Lee Loader to reload .410 shells. We really didn’t think too much about it until someone saw the little setup we had and was amazed. This little loader allows you to literally reload your .410 shells out in the field if you wished. You are not tied down to a reloading bench and all sorts of permanently mounted equipment. Other than the kit you only need a hand priming system and a small wooden mallet.

This is the loading kit I am referring to:

Lee Loader

Lee Loader

This got me to thinking whether other field type kits were available still or if I was stuck looking for older gear if I wanted something else. A quick search came up with the following results:

.308 Hand Loader
9mm Hand Loader
.38 SPL Hand Loader
.223 Hand Loader
30-06 Hand Loader

These were just a few of the calibers that were available. I didn’t feel like over linking this post, so just click one of the links above and do a search for your specific caliber.

There are also other items that are available to assist if you are setting up to reload in the field. Lee also makes a hand press that will allow you to use your normal dies. It just requires you to strong arm the lever rather than having it bolted to a table. Of course it is also single stage and not progressive, so you wouldn’t want to fill AR15 magazines with what you are loading by hand. It would work well for a SHTF situation or if you had to rebuild some loads with a different bullet weight while in the field for instance. Here is the kit.

Lee Hand Press Kit

Lee Hand Press Kit

Some other items that might be handy if you decide to set up for reloading in the field would be the powder measure kit and maybe some sort of scale to ensure you are getting the right loads.

Even though this might seem a bit extreme just think back to the end of the 1800’s and early 1900’s. Most sportsmen would have similar setups that they took with them to reload as needed in the bush. Factory loads were expensive and had some problems with reliability depending on where you lived. If they were able to reload their hunting loads and pull off the shots that they did, why not take a look at grabbing some equipment for yourself. You don’t have to get a $700 Dillon or Ponsness Warren setup to reload. People like Billy Dixon were able to pull off almost 1 mile shots with their loads. I don’t think that is too bad with an old 50-90 Sharpes, so think how well some simple gear and practice could do for you and your .270.

Here is a video that shows how to use the Lee Hand Loader.

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Stag Model 2 Upgrades

by Gunguy

I  made some upgrades to my Stag Model 2. I wanted to improve the aesthetics and the handling of the rifle.

I replaced the forend with a Magpul MOE carbine forend, added some Magpul rails to the top and bottom, installed a Magpul angled fore grip, added a Magpul BAD lever, attached a Midwest Industries end plate adapter, purchased a Specter Gear one point sling which is in the picture but then I replaced it with the Magpul MS3 sling which I think is better and more versatile, replaced the stock charging handle with a BCM Mod 5 to give me a larger surface area when charging and finally replaced the stock trigger with a Geissele super dynamic combat trigger.

The gun handled well before I made the changes. After the upgrades running the rifle was freaking fantastic. I took a carbine class this spring and I put 1200 rounds through it over the course of two days with only one failure to eject. The Geissele trigger is amazing and I would recommend this upgrade first. I put links to all of the items, prices and pics below. Post a comment if you have any questions and I’ll get back to you.

Magpul MOE Handguard – $34

Magpul MOE Accesory Rails – $15

Magpul Angled Foregrip – $41

BAD Lever – $28

Midwest Industries AR-15 MCTAR-30HD Sling Adapter – $64

Specter Gear Viper 1 Point Sling – $41

Magpul MS3 Sling – $48

BCM Gunfighter AR-15 Mod 5 Charging Handle – $45

Geissele Super Dynamic Combat Trigger –  $220

These items were on the gun before adding the above.

Safariland Rail Light Mount-$34

Led Lenser Flashlight -$25

Eotech Holo Sight w/ Dual ARMS Levers and Base – $550

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Bridgford Ready To Eat Sandwiches

by Woodsbum

Today’s post is near and dear to my heart. It is about food. I love food and love food that is able to be stored for long periods of time, be easily transported, takes no real preparation before consuming, and ACTUALLY TASTES GOOD. Enter the Bridgford Read to Eat Sandwich.

This sandwich package was about $6 for two wrapped breakfast creations. There are tons of different varieties, but this was what we tried first. I figured that anyone who could make a French toast sandwich in a shelf stable form that tasted decent was on to something. Now I have eaten MORE than my fair share of MRE’s while in the military. Many were barely edible, but some were pretty good. The most current batches are actually downright tasty. If Bridgford is able to tap into any of that tastiness for their product, these things might be a winner…..  Now for the opening and testing.

This is how the sandwiches are packaged. Two of these tan wrapped sandwiches come in each plastic bag.

Bridgford Sandwiches

Bridgford Sandwiches

The foil wrappers are just like MRE wrappers and open exactly the same. As a nice change, however, there is nutrition information on the side if each sandwich. It also makes it nice to be able to figure out exactly what you are eating. Makes me wonder what the “4 Fingers of Death” (Beef Frankfurters) MRE really had in it….  Hmmmmm……

Nutrition Information

Nutrition Information

The actual sandwich look very reminiscent of the old MRE maple nut cakes. It also had that same smell, which definitely brought back memories. Here is what the look like with the wrapper pulled back.

Unwrapped

Unwrapped

The taste was also very similar to the MRE maple nut cakes, but a bit more sweet due to the syrup. All in all, they were not that horrible. As a primary source of food on a daily basis you could not run fast enough to get me to eat one every morning. As an occasional meal while out in the woods or in a SHTF type situation, you bet I will be back in line for seconds. On my “Tastiness Scale” I would give it about a 6/10. As a matter of reference I consider my tuna casserole 1/10 and my prime rib a 10/10. This fits in around the BBQ chicken area of the chart.

I am actually looking forward to trying out several more variations of these sandwiches. If they can make the French toast into a shelf stable variant that tastes this good, their Italian and BBQ versions must be incredible.

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