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by Woodsbum

I reside on the squishy side of Washington. We get an obscene amount of rain here. This creates many problems (or challenges if you took any “leadership” courses). Because of the constant rain and wet environment, rust on your high carbon blades is a real issue.

What can you do? Should you put wax on your blade before you go out? How about using a polishing wheel to get rid of the surface rust? Patina works, right? Should I just use blades that have a thick coating on them like enamel or paint? Maybe I should transition to only using ceramic and flint knapped blades?

Well…… Here is my solution.

After searching high and low for a way to keep my pistols and knives from rusting, I just started going old school. In some readings I learned that many people (throughout history) used some sort of oil skin or oil rag to keep their metal items in to protect them. This got me to thinking……

Where do my knives and pistols live life more often than not? Their sheaths and holsters of course! What if I was to oil the inside of the sheath or holster?

“BAH! That would ruin the sheath or holster! You are crazy and that won’t work!” many people told me.

Well, I am here to say that it does work and it works really well. I keep my pistols in well oiled Cordura type holsters when not in use and I use well oiled leather holsters when I am out in the woods. The oil seeps into the leather and continues to protect, displace water, and prevent rusting. It also keeps the leather from molding or rotting due to prolonged exposure.

Here are a few pictures of my well oiled leather:

This sheath was custom built, but was heavily waxed and was causing some rust to build up on my blade. Here it is after I oiled the inside. No more rust!

My field gear

I made this sheath. I first tried waxing it and using Sno-Seal. Blade went right to rust spots just because of the humidity. I then sprayed the inside down with oil and all is now grand.

Necker with Mora and homemade firesteel

I also made these (except for the Condor – but the sheath is well oiled). After dying them, I oiled the crap out of the inside. No rust.

Some leatherworking I did

Now this one I did a little different. All I did was oil it and put Sno-Seal on it. First the Sno-Seal with heat to melt it in. Then I soaked it in oil. Came out looking really good and it doesn’t rust the blade. I have done several just like this and can post a picture of the pattern upon request. I still have one leather blank all cut out that I use for a pattern.

Another necker and homemade firesteel

I don’t have a picture of it right now, but I also got an Adventure Sworn knife and sheath that I had to oil. After just a couple hours of being out in the Washington weather, I was getting rust spots on the blade. Once I oiled the sheath and the blade, it all went away and have not had any issues since.

Now you may ask, “What sort of oil do you use?” Well, I have tried several types to include, WD40, RemOil, Barricade, and CRC. None work nearly as well as Liquid Wrench.

Liquid Wrench

I don’t know what they put in it or how it works so well, but it is the product of choice to spray inside your leather products for rust prevention. Now, it does make your leather products smell and I have yet to get a good solution for that other than some drops of vanilla. That means you might have to weight the benefits versus smell if you bow hunt. I have used vanilla (Mexican vanilla you get from the little bakeries down south) on a piece of cloth and then wipe the inside of the well oiled leather down. It cuts the smell tremendously. My son and I were 12 yards away from the deer he took and it didn’t know we were there, so it helps obviously. If you are strict about your scent control, you might want to only use the oil method for camping equipment. Just giving fair warning.

Since I first started using oil to coat the inside of my sheaths and holsters, I have yet to get any rust on anything. Every time I try and do something different, I fight the rust game. You can use my trick or not, but it does work.

Thank you for looking and let me know if you have any other, well used and practiced methods of fighting rust in places as squishy as Western Washington!

by Woodsbum

Hello All!!!!!

Finally got a chance to get out and do a good review of BigDaddyHoss’s saw he is making. Since it was my birthday, I took the day off and drug the family out to the woods to play around. Of course it was quite squishy, so most of the pictures have a side order of mud and slime. I also messed up and forgot to turn off my GPS so my battery died about the time my son got the fire started. That means that you guys miss out on the fire, bacon/pepperoni sandwiches and Bailey’s with coffee…. Sorry…..

Well, I must say that the way that this saw is packaged makes it VERY easy to transport. I drilled a couple holes in the bottom of my pack frame to tie it. All the parts fold down and slide right into a very convenient cover. It literally is small enough that you could put it into a quiver or the straps on an M39 pack if wanted.

Packed size of the saw. Great packaging.

Here is a picture of the saw all put together. It is sitting on a few packs for size comparison:

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Saw assembled. M39 and French rucksack for comparisons.

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The design has slots for the cross piece. This has always been what has “gotten” me in the past. Most saws don’t fit snug enough to keep the blade relatively tight and protected from my bear paws. This is why I have tended to use some sort of wire or chainsaw type bladed design. If you look at the way that this one is built, the inserts/slots keep the blade from being able to collapse. Now other saws use this design, but BigDaddyHoss did a really good job of fitting everything tightly enough to withstand my abuse. I really love the way he did this. It has saved the blade from being destroyed already.

Now here is one problem I have run into. It is with the pins and cold weather. In the cold and wet, the pins are difficult to get into place during assembly. I do like how there are metal pin holes, lanyard holes, or whatever you want to call them. Without these, assembly would be even more difficult in the wet and cold. It might just be one of my many issues with things, but it has caused me some curse words at times. Once it is assembled, I do sing its praises however. The tight fit is what makes it take the abuse I put out. As you can see from the pictures, it is pretty dirty and stained already.

The blade is tightened through the use of paracord that comes with the saw. There are a couple of notches for the cord to fit in and I was actually very skeptical as to whether it would stay in place. So far I have yet to make it slide or slip even slightly. This has been used in the rain, snow, sleet, and even for a short period of dry weather.

If you look closely you can see this thing just eating the wood. Seeing as how I never really use saws, but am more into axes and knives it takes a lot for a saw to impress me. I cut enough wood for afternoon in about half to a third of the time it normally takes me with an axe.

Me using the saw. Check out the dust flying from my cut.

My main problems with saws have been my inability to really get it to stay together during use. I tend to bend bow saws and get annoyed with little hand saws. I have even tried making several buck saws like this, but have had always bent or broken the saw blade in no time. Now I understand that it all comes down to my crappy technique and vicious nature in which I try to use my tools. Bad Wayne… I get it. What impressed me is that this was the 5th or 6th time that I have used this saw and it has yet to break or even bend the blade. You guys can’t even comprehend how impressive this is to be able to withstand the hell I dish out.

You can see the wood chunks and saw dust at my feet. This was only a couple minutes of work… As in maybe five minutes with me directing my son on making a pot hook while I sawed.

You can see all the dust and what I cut in just a couple minutes.

Here is a good picture of it covered in mud and dirt along with an MP Direwolf and AS Mountaineer.

MP knife, Adventure Sworn Mountaineer, Big Daddy Hoss saw

Gear shot!!!

Well, here is the fire pit we put up and a small corner of the wood pile I made. The wife and son had taken off to find some good kindling.

Fire ring.

So I assumed “the position” to wait.

Catching some ZZZZZZ’s…..

Here is the son building our fire. I took his firesteel away and made him use flint and steel.

The kid is blowing a piece of charcloth into flame with jute twine.

Now if you are wondering why I put these last three pictures into a gear review, it is quite simple…… My phone died and I purposely make the son and wife keep theirs in the truck. “Why?” you ask. I have had to purchase several new phones for both of them due to water issues and losing them. Basically, they get grounded from their phones whenever we go out. This means that this picture was the very last one that I was able to take of our afternoon. Sorry again……

In wrapping things up, I highly recommend BigDaddyHoss’s saw. There are a few points to close with:
1) Small and easy to carry. The design regarding takedown and storage is impeccable.
2) Setting this up with cold fingers can be a little trying, but it is really a tight fit. The way it was designed, the blade (no matter how hard I seem to try during use) resists bending and breaking.
3) It is tough. I already dropped it off a bridge (long story – remember cold and snow?) and it didn’t even scar it up.
4) I love the Bahco blade. It cuts through wood like it was nothing. My wife was out there using it today as well. No problems and she loves it as well.
5) The craftsmanship is awesome and it really is sweet looking.

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To end it out, here is a good picture of the creek next to where we were playing around.

Closing pic.

If you are interested in getting one of these fine saws, you can go here:

Thank you for looking.

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